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AMF_PL ДЕЛИЈА јуниор
Joined: 26 May 2011 Posts: 21 Location: Polska!
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Posted: 26 May 2011 01:24 Post subject: Пољски стоји у невољи |
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Hello all Serbian brothers!
I'm totally sorry for not typing in Cyrillic, but please - read it (and if any one can translate, please do - it is very important for us!)
My post here is a voice of all our Polish fans community. IT WILL NOT COVER ALL THE ASPECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING NOW, BUT WILL TAKE YOU CLOSER TO OUR FANATICS SCENE NOWADAYS.
We ask you for your support. Support against a great enemy.
Never before, in any country, no one have felt such a tyrany from government, police and courts. Poland - in the face of EURO 2012 have failed in almost every aspect. The decision that EURO 2012 will be held in Poland and Ukraine was decided 5 years ago. Since that time there were many changes in our infrastuctere - the stadiums. However, there will be no roads, railroads, hotels, airports. The fans from all over Europe will see nothing - they will be stuck in traffic-jams. Our government DID NOT fulfiled their work. It took 5 years to build everything = nothing was done.
Five months from now there will be held another election to the Polish government. Thats why the campaign have started. However the main target of this campaign is not: the roads, railroads, hotels, stadiums, infrastructure...
IT IS US = FANATICS
Most of media and politics are concerned about the fans and not about the "real-deal" - not to be ashemed throughout the Europe. The media are trying to stamp us out. Politics do not care about their promises they made, but try to find more support, because of the elections.
WE FIGHT! But the repressions are getting stronger every day. Our Prime Minister Donald Tusk said 4 years ago that he will make from Poland another Ireland... but now we have another Belarus. He closed the stadiums and made our football society to ban fans from going to away matches (can you think of that?)
1) Closed stadium of Legia Warszawa
= stupidity of Donald (Prime Minister) is worst than a flare
and Lech Poznań
fans went to support the footballers outside the stadiums
2) All fans in Poland chant a song in which there is a word "matoł" which means idiot, but in a funny way. For that word 43 fans of Jagiellonia Białystok were treated with 500-1000 PLN fine (13250-26500 RSD). This means that you CAN NOT say anything bad about your government. Totalitarism?
3) Prime Minister closes any stadium on his demand. Lech Poznań, Legia Warszawa, Widzew Łódź, Zagłębię Lubin, Śląsk Wrocław are the examples. Of course no one can go anywhere on any stadium in all leagues.
There are many more points which I will provide later on if required. We are under a massive attack. We know no one in Europe have ever suffered more than we are suffering now:
Examples like above and even 2000 PLN (53 000 RDS) + 0,5 year of prison (in 3 year probation) + 3 years of stadium ban for cursing (!) Flares are even more repressed. Police from the government command takes many of normal fans down to courts for anything. THIS IS THE COST OF EURO 2012.
I Hope this topic will stay here, then I can inform you about everything that happens in Poland nowadays.
We were always with you.
KOSOVO JE SERBJA
Hope you will be with us in our "game over" moment. We don't want another bundesliga - we want our stadiums back! It is our last time to fight. If no one else will help - it is over. We want our stadiums back!
(God save the fanatics)
(It's better to steal than make fans shows = the judge will be more lenient)
IF THIS TOPIC WILL STAY HERE I WILL TELL YOU ALL ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR COUNTY. IT IS TOTAL MADNESS.
I hope our Serbian brothers will support us in our fight.
ZOSTAWCIE W SPOKOJU POLSKIE TRUBUNY
LEAVE POLISH STANDS ALONE!
AGAINST MOD€RN FOOTBALL![/img] |
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Опуштени ДЕЛИЈА сениор
Joined: 01 Sep 2010 Posts: 863 Location: Нови Београд
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AMF_PL ДЕЛИЈА јуниор
Joined: 26 May 2011 Posts: 21 Location: Polska!
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Posted: 27 May 2011 09:20 Post subject: |
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Two days ago 4 fans of Wisła Płock were held by the police for hanging banners which did not make "any relevence with a football match". The prosecutor wants them to be punished with 3 years of stadium ban and 2000 PLN (~~53000 RSD) fine.
The real thing is that is a political repression. Fans sneer from our prime minister, so he uses police to repress fans.
Those fans were held by the police mostly for a banner with words:
"Tola ma Donalda, a Donald ma Tole" - which is a funny game of words. Donald is the name of our prime minister and walt disney character, and Tola is a polish cartoon girl... but finally Donald matole means - Donald you moron.
Such banners are hanged out on many stadiums
This is strickly political reaction to fans actions.
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Some actions that taken place outside Poland:
Wembley stadium before tomorrow final
Sturm Graz
OFK Belgrad
MSK Zilina
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Please also visit
http://www.ultras-tifo.net/news/398-poland-football-fans-against-government.html |
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Stari ДЕЛИЈА јуниор
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 Posts: 82 Location: Beograd,Srbija
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Posted: 27 May 2011 09:48 Post subject: |
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Sad you are going trough all of this...and trust me we've got a lot of problems here ourselves with repression , government and what not.
I will translate what you wrote as soon as I'm back from work,don't worry about that .
Wish you good luck friend and I hope you will succeed in your actions. |
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муња Ветеран
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 1076 Location: Делије припреме
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Posted: 27 May 2011 10:14 Post subject: |
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Виоле Марибор на финалу купа 25.5.
_________________ Догодине у Призрену!
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AMF_PL ДЕЛИЈА јуниор
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Posted: 27 May 2011 16:29 Post subject: |
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Good news from Płock. Public prosecutor wanted 6 years of stadium + 5 000 PLN fine (~~ 132 000 RSD). Finally the judge said that those 4 fans are innocent.
The truth was that they were not even close to that banner - the police have taken them out of the sector randomly. The monitoring tapes proven their innocence.
However, if they would those guys who really have hanged this banner, then they would be fined.
The situation is not funny at all. The law gives security (not the police, but security - stewards) very big privileges. Which of course they are starting to OVERUSE. In this law there is written: if you don't follow security orders you can be fined and given stadium ban.
Last actions:
Few fans of Zagłębie Lubin were prosecuted for hanging a banner and changing the place in the stadium.
Fan of Ruch Chorzów was fined for standing with one foot on the stairs.
A kid got a very big fine for a shirt with JP sign (meaning Jebać Policję).
Fans of Odra Wodzisław, Korona Kielce and few other teams were fined for cursing (?!) on the stadium.
4 fans of Wisła Kraków were detained and questioned by the police for wearing T-shirts (?!) with words "death to Cracovia". They will see the judge for this.
Odra Wodzisław support organizer (the megaphone guy) was taken to court for climbing on the fence with megaphone and cursing.
In lower leagues is much worse. Fan of Polonia Przemyśl who jumped over a fence got 6 months in prison (?!) in a 3 year probation. 2 Nielba fans got 4 years of stadium ban for standing on the fence.
From over 70 ultras of Korona Kielce, almost all were banned - now they are left with 6 guys.
Every action above end with 1500-3000 (and more) PLN fine and a 2-6 year stadium ban.
Of course those are only few examples how police, security and the government fight with us nowadays.
AGAINST MOD€RN FOOTBALL! |
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AMF_PL ДЕЛИЈА јуниор
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Posted: 27 May 2011 16:48 Post subject: |
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муња
Your foto of Maribor fans is doing a nice work on polish internet, thanks! [/b] _________________ Wielkopolska sercem Polski!
Kosowo sercem Serbii! |
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AMF_PL ДЕЛИЈА јуниор
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Posted: 27 May 2011 22:38 Post subject: |
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Some of the best banners in the country this month
Arka Gdynia:
Fuck economy, fuck unemployment. The most important is the fine for a banner on the fence.
Everything is expensive, shit with the roads - but most important is the war with fanatics.
You want beer on the stadiums, but near them you fine everybody for it. It's interesting which beer company gave a bribe?
Championship atmosphere.
Arka fans dressed in black, and brought a lot vuvuzelas to the stadium to destroy the transmission in TV. No fanatic singing, just vuvuzela TV comentators were shocked.
Lechia Gdańsk:
You should take out hens to go piss instead of making politics.
We have survived the Russians, we will survive Tusk (and his friends).
MKS Lubin (women handball):
Tusk, close this school - future stadium bandits educate here.
Legia Warszawa:
It is logo similar to Gazeta Wyborcza, a newspaper fighting with fanatics. Here changed to "Gówna Prawda" = bullshit
Lech Poznań:
PROJECT EURO2012
stadiums - overpayed
highways - there won't be any
railway stations - powdered (like make-up)
airports - provincial
substitute subject - the fans
the government - happy
and most of the clubs in whole country in every league have this banner
Unfulfilled government promises = substitute subject the fans
Górnik Zabrze:
It was supposed to be another Ireland, but we have another Belarus.
Tusk said in his campain that he will make of Poland another Ireland.
Olimpia Grudziądz:
You don't know anything about governing, so you close the stadiums.
Korona Kielce:
This could not enter the stadium. Because there are too little ultras left there. All with stadium bans.
There will be nothing. No flares, no shows, no support, no fans. Euro 2012.
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And some older:
Widzew Łódź:
When from the stadiums all the light is gone. EURO 2012. There will be the time when you appreciate our work.
Ruch Radzionków:
Your propaganda is as strong as in the communist time. But the truth is with this tribune.
Polonia Bytom
They are condemning what they don't understand.
...and many more... _________________ Wielkopolska sercem Polski!
Kosowo sercem Serbii! |
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Слађан ДЕЛИЈА јуниор
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Слађан ДЕЛИЈА јуниор
Joined: 21 Apr 2011 Posts: 37
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Posted: 28 May 2011 14:09 Post subject: |
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Ne radi mi edit.
Wembley England:
"Wembley Stadium is closed due to Donald Tusk's request." |
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Robbie Williams Ветеран
Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Posts: 1496 Location: Маки, Нови Бановци
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AMF_PL ДЕЛИЈА јуниор
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Posted: 28 May 2011 23:47 Post subject: |
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21 fanatics of Legia Warszawa were given a stadium ban for singing anti semitic songs about Widzew Łódź.
Security takes over Sandecja Nowy Sącz ultra show. They all leave the stadium. So as 30 fans of ŁKS Łódź that were present on this match, although the away matches ban.
Fans are doing many tricks to go on away matches which are banned in all league (you can not go to an away match with your team - can you think of that?). So supporters go as "tourists" to view another city monuments, churches, cities etc. and by the way to watch the match of their team. NO ONE CAN ORDER YOU NOT TO GO TO ANOTHER CITY. This is really North Korea or worse...
Today (29.05) is the last game day in our highest division. On most of the stadiums there will be no support for the teams. _________________ Wielkopolska sercem Polski!
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AMF_PL ДЕЛИЈА јуниор
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Posted: 29 May 2011 00:10 Post subject: |
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Central Bureau of Laughing
Turn off the TV. Turn on thinking.
And about the away matches ban:
220 fans of Raków Częstochowa in Zagłębie Sosnowiec (or 3rd class of football system). They are not friends, but united against restrictions.
_________________ Wielkopolska sercem Polski!
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Опуштени ДЕЛИЈА сениор
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Posted: 29 May 2011 22:21 Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, a police inspector in Novi Sad has twice refused to allow us to bring banners of supportt for Polish Ultras inside the stadium! Idiots! Another shame of Serbian police. |
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AMF_PL ДЕЛИЈА јуниор
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Posted: 30 May 2011 11:52 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the support! What was on the banners?
Lech Poznań yesterday:
80 minutes of the match: all dressed in black, no support. Very depressing view.
From 80-85 minute we start normal support. The we leave the stadium. In 88 minute we come back with piro and support, which nowadays is a very risky move.
After the match, our Serbian player, Ivan Djurdjević took the shirt and put it on when celebration with the fans. He was the only one who took it, because our Polish player are pussies. Respect!
ps. Ivan is the only player who comes to the sector after a lost match and tells other players to come there also.
It was supposed to be another Ireland, but it is another Belarus.
Respect.
Video when we come back:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c11VMOHkmU0 _________________ Wielkopolska sercem Polski!
Kosowo sercem Serbii! |
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