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Лионац
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PostPosted: 05 Jun 2011 19:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pozdrów dla polskich przyjaciół! Jesteśmy z Wami, u nas nasz rząd też robi podobne akcji, żeby nas oddzielić od stadiumów. Ja jestem prze jakiś czas w Polsce i poznałem kilku kibiców, który chcieli mnie prowadzić na mecz. Nazwa klubu nie jest ważna. Podsumiwając, umawialiśmy się na pewny mecz, ale nie mogłem wejść na stadium, bo obcokrajowcy nie mogą kupić bilet???
Поздрав за пољске пријатеље! Уз вас смо, и код нас се дешавају сличне акције наших власти да би нас одвојили од стадиона. Ја сам неко време у Пољској и упознао сам се са неколицином навијача који су хтели да ме одведу на утакмицу. Име клуба није битно. Углавном, договарали смо се за једну одређену утакмицу, али нисам могао да уђем на стадион, јер странци немају право да купе карту??? Shocked
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PostPosted: 06 Jun 2011 22:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is starting to get normal here, that you can not buy a ticket for a match in other city, because in you identity card you have another city. This is against constitution, because no one can forbid me to buy a ticket for a certain match. Where are your basic civil rights? Plus in all leagues all supporters have an away ban - so you can not even travel to another city. It is totally stupid. But of course, sometimes you can trick authorities or get some help from home team supporters - like here 2 days ago 800 fans of Zawisza Bydgoszcz in Jarocin (3rd league)



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This week we started new campaign of improving safety and furthermore to change this sick "law of mass event safety". We want to gather 100 000 votes and take our new proposition of changing this law to the parliament. It is called citizen's initiative and the parliament must consider it. We think that gathering 100 000 votes will be no problem.

Our changes in this law of mass event safety is among other:

ban any alcohol on the tribunes
legalization of piro - but in Danish model
shorter time of stadiums bans, with possibility of "working it out"

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Yesterday Radom's derby - match was without fans, because of the local administration decision. Fans went outside the stadium to support footballers. Police attacked them, started to shoot at running away fans in the back. Over 100 people were arrested.


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Meantime, it is very likely that many fans of Lech Poznań will get stadiums bans for action against security and piro on the last match. It is rumoured that if this happens, then supporters will boycot season tickets, support, and will go to full war with managment of Lech Poznań. The same as Legia Warszawa had for 4 years and finally won it last year.
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PostPosted: 07 Jun 2011 17:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the facebook site where you can read about our propositions for the new law of mass events (Polish)

http://www.facebook.com/kibicezabezpieczenstwem

One of the official videos about the protest:

Government's unfulfilled promises - substitute topic = the fanatics.

http://youtu.be/FJEKN-vFMZg


And here, if anyone knows Polish, is our general Petelicki about the supporters.

"Very brave young man with honor, who will fight for our land. But now they are insulted because they are a substitute topic for the government's failure." etc

http://youtu.be/ZSm8zyOjt8w
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PostPosted: 07 Jun 2011 18:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

Support to our Polish friends!
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PostPosted: 07 Jun 2011 22:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today our Supreme Chamber of Control (a national institution that controls the work of the government and other national institutions) has given their result of control of our prepartions to euro2012. The raport is devastating to the government. Of course no one heard it the media, because throughout the whole day everybody talked about the 100 arrested "hooligans" in Radom and fucking homosexuals laws.


[img]http://www.nik.gov.pl/aktualnosci/nik-o-euro-2012.html[/img] (here are the details -> [img]http://www.nik.gov.pl/plik/id,2761,vp,3487.pdf[/img]

It will be available in English probably in few days time.

We are totally in ass with the prepartions. This government should be in prison for what they did. And of course substitute topic for their lies, spending our money for shits and corruption is us, fanatics.

No roads, no airports, no railways. Only lies and fanatics under police and government pressure. Welcome to euro2012 Smile
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PostPosted: 09 Jun 2011 16:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://casopis.izaberipartizan.com/v2/img/slike/1307583377.jpg
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PostPosted: 11 Jun 2011 10:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

гардиста wrote:
http://casopis.izaberipartizan.com/v2/img/slike/1307583377.jpg

изабери шта? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11 Jun 2011 11:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wsparcie z Belgradu
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PostPosted: 13 Jun 2011 18:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red devils Kragujevac


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PostPosted: 23 Jun 2011 18:42    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 06 Jul 2011 10:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was a great action of Legia fans. Tusk was playing football with kids. Legia supporters chanted: "instead of building roads you are playing with the kids" or "do not pass to the idiot" hehe Smile




From other news:

In the first match in Europa League, Jagiellonia Białystok fans were not allowed to bring their flags to the stadium. There was no support for the team and after first insults at the club directors - the flags were back and normal support has started.

Jagiellonia fans decided not to buy season tickets, tickets for other matches at home and team's gadgets. They are the first firm to boycot their own team in this season. Other firms are talking it over in their own circles.

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700 Pogoń Szczecin fans went to Berlin to see a test game with Union. Police attacked them with gas and batons. 20 fans were held by police.



Pogoń made a very significant banner Smile



Foto of fans and police interventions are here. For next part click "teil 2"


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There is a big pressure from the government to extend ban for the fans to go on away games for the next season up to euro2012. Polish football association decided to not extend it. However, they only manage the leagues from the II to the lowest leagues. The I league and Ekstraklasa will have to decide for themselves.

Clubs will vote for or against the ban. In the first meeting majority of the clubs were for the ban. It is very complicated situation, because they are under government pressure. For example - if you don't ban fans from going on away matches, and they will do something bad, then we will close your stadium. Some clubs are given other opportunites, for example matches of the national team on their stadiums. However, the decision wasn't finally made.

Yesterday there was a meeting of Ekstraklasa directors and leaders of all supporters associations. The proposition was made and supporters associations will talk it over in their own circles. However, the police is back on the stadiums and repressions will be even more drastic then nowadays, so every choice will be bad. Now it is the time to pick the lesser of two evils.

There was also an article that states: the police don't want to convoy the supporters anymore, because it costs a lot of money. Such an idea might be good Wink
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PostPosted: 07 Jul 2011 04:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

о чему се ради овде ? јел може неко укратко да објасни на нашем језику..
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PostPosted: 07 Jul 2011 08:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnonimniHunter wrote:
о чему се ради овде ? јел може неко укратко да објасни на нашем језику..

Премијер Пољске Доналд Туск хоће малтене да забрани све навијаче, забрањена су гостовања у прва три ранга такмичења, доносе се неки болесни закони (нпр висока новчана казна и чини ми се затвор ако носиш фантомку или нешто што прекрива лице на стадиона да камера не може да те идентификује), као за време Јочића код нас, мада још и горе.
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PostPosted: 10 Mar 2012 04:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is your right arm more muscular than your left because of handball? Mine is, what should I do to make them even? Is there anyway to play handball with two hands?
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