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PostPosted: 30 Mar 2008 16:59    Post subject: any answer...? Reply with quote



i cant understand what they want by doing this things, to embarrass our nasional emblem
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PostPosted: 30 Mar 2008 17:09    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is some kind of exibition in skopje...
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PostPosted: 30 Mar 2008 18:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is right, i think that its about some VMRO member, vardarians under big bulgarian influence-the one thet today are calling themselves macedonians
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PostPosted: 30 Mar 2008 20:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vardarians they are big provokers...

They have NOTHING to do with Ancient Macedonia and Ancient Macedonians! They wish to, but...
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PostPosted: 30 Mar 2008 20:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is toooooo much ...

The guys are just idiots ... they chalenge their luck ... testing our nerves ...

and they want to talk (Greece - Vardarska) as equals, when they wont exist after 10-15 years as Protectorate (as they are today)... they will dissapear from the map ...
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PostPosted: 30 Mar 2008 22:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's typical for the imaginary republic of Macedonia that they are taking other peoples history because they have none....
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PostPosted: 31 Mar 2008 07:36    Post subject: Re: any answer...? Reply with quote

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i cant understand what they want by doing this things, to embarrass our nasional emblem


Yes they are trying to embarass your national emblem, but the only thing they're embarassing is themselves.
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PostPosted: 31 Mar 2008 08:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snake wrote:
It's typical for the imaginary republic of Macedonia that they are taking other peoples history because they have none....


Yeah, they don't like their REAL name (Vardarska Banovina) and thanks to TITO, they got the name "Makedonija" since 1946... Makedonia it was, it is, and it will ALWAYS be the name of NORTH GREECE, and Macedonians are the NORTHERN GREEKS!

THAT'S Macedonia


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PostPosted: 31 Mar 2008 10:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard on news this morning that FYRM is going to change name in order of some kind of ultimatum given by Greece? What is all about and what will be their new name?
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PostPosted: 31 Mar 2008 21:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Skinuti bilbordi sa spornom grčkom zastavom Ponedeljak, 31. mart 2008. 22:21



U Skoplju su skinuti bilbordi na kojima je prikazana grčka zastava sa kukastim krstom, a kojima je bila najavljivana umetnička izložba slikara Atanasa Boteva.

Posle protestne note grčke vlade koju je makedonskom ministarstvu spolnjih poslova uručila šefica grčke kancelarije za veze Aleksandra Papadopulu, vlada u Skoplju se ogradila da je ona deo ove manifestacije.

Slikar Botev, koji je autor slike na kojoj se nalazi sporna grčka zastava, kao pozadina jednoj porodičnoj fotografiji, izjavio je da se radi o pogrešnom tumačenju.

"Nije bilo nikakve namere za provokaciju prema Grčkoj. Radi se o drevnom indijskom simbolu koji u kontekstu moje porodice, koja potiče iz egejskog dela Makedonije označava sreću, ljubav i radost", objašnjava autor.

Zlatko Stevkovski, direktor Kulturno-informativnog centra u Skopju, koji je organizator izložbe, takođe je ocenio da je reakcija iz Atine neopravdana.

"Ja se ne smatram pozvanim da cenzurišem autora i ono što on smatra da treba da bude izloženo", kazao je Stevkovski.

Izložba treba da bude otvorena 3. aprila, kada će se na samitu NATO u Bukureštu odlučivati o članstvu Makedonije u Alijansi na šta je Grčka najavila veto, ukoliko ne bude nađeno rešenje za 17 godina dugi spor oko ustavnog imena bivše jugoslovenske republike.

"Vlada nema nikakve veze sa ovom manifestacijom i ovim bilbordima i nikada dosada na bilo koji način nije uticala na umetnički izraz pojedinca ili grupe", izjavio je portparol Vlade Ivica Bocevski.

On je dodao da je ministar spoljnih poslova Makedonije Antonio Milošoski razgovarao sa šefom grčke Kancelarije za veze u Skoplju, saopštivši mu poziciju Makedonske vlade u vezi ovog pitanja.

Šef makedonske diplomatije je, prema rečima Bocevskog, tom prilikom "potvrdio makedonsku poziciju i praksu za izgradnju dobrosusedskih i evropskih odnosa, što je Makedonija dokazala u proteklih 17 godina nezavisnosti".

"Ovaj neprihvatljiv poster, koji je pušten u opticaj posredstvom privatne inicijative i istaknut na ulicama Skoplja, direktno vređa nacionalni simbol naše zemlje i našu borbu protiv fašizma i nacizma", izjavio je predstavnik Ministarstva spoljnih poslova Grčke Jorgos Kumucakos.

"Ovaj incident pokazuje da oni koji investiraju u šovinizam i fanatizam prave ogromnu grešku i takođe ponovo potvrđuje ispravnost grčkog stava, konkretno, da je nužan uslov za uspostavljanje odnosa solidarnosti i savezništva poštovati u praksi dobrosusedske odnose između zemalja i naroda", naveo je Kumucakos, a preneli grčki mediji.

Slika sa kukastim krstom na grčkoj zastavi, umesto krsta, bila je jedna od prvih koju su emitovali svi TV dnevnici u Grčkoj.

(Tanjug - foto AP)

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PostPosted: 31 Mar 2008 22:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

all this propaganda shall not be taken lightly by greece goverment and by greek people,therefore greek people should be more agressive in purssuing the voiding of use of the name of macedonia by some teritory and people that has nothing to do with the real macedonian.
it is enough parodox that this country by the will of the evil western powers exist.
when the lye is reppetied milion times it sound like a truth as for a example you have now ''bosnian'' language as a result what kind of things evil propaganda can do.
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PostPosted: 01 Apr 2008 05:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

After the "gift" to albanians now USA force our goverment not to put VETO for the induction of fyrom (fyrom: temporarily name of that country since 93) to NATO and to accept tha name macedonia for this country. but if this country call it macedonia finally who we are???? i accept that part of the land of acient macedonia was and there, but the bigest part was in the territory of greece. so what we official say? we say ok to have the word macedonia but not only this, you have to put a second word like (new macedonia, south macedonia, north macedonia what ever you want) just to have in mind that there is another part of macedonia in greece. today there trying to stole our name tomorow what??? it reminds me something familiar that happend, not for a word but for holy ground.
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PostPosted: 01 Apr 2008 06:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

well with the wardarian propaganda it is not easy to find out a solution.

the worst of all is something what I read some weeks ago.

There was made some years ago a programme from CNN about Macedonia and its history saying that people from wardarska are Slavic people and do not have descendance from Alexander the Great, so they know and they said the true,what we all know and believe. Although, after the wardarian protest against CNN, the people from the english channel excused theirselves and "repaired" the mistake.

I can not understant why,if all people see the true and know what is going on, why they keep calling this "country" as Macedonia. And this is something which is happening almost with all the countries.
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PostPosted: 01 Apr 2008 07:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skinuti bilbordi sa spornom grčkom zastavom
Ponedeljak, 31. mart 2008. 22:21


U Skoplju su skinuti bilbordi na kojima je prikazana grčka zastava sa kukastim krstom, a kojima je bila najavljivana umetnička izložba slikara Atanasa Boteva.

Posle protestne note grčke vlade koju je makedonskom ministarstvu spolnjih poslova uručila šefica grčke kancelarije za veze Aleksandra Papadopulu, vlada u Skoplju se ogradila da je ona deo ove manifestacije.

Slikar Botev, koji je autor slike na kojoj se nalazi sporna grčka zastava, kao pozadina jednoj porodičnoj fotografiji, izjavio je da se radi o pogrešnom tumačenju.

"Nije bilo nikakve namere za provokaciju prema Grčkoj. Radi se o drevnom indijskom simbolu koji u kontekstu moje porodice, koja potiče iz egejskog dela Makedonije označava sreću, ljubav i radost", objašnjava autor.

Zlatko Stevkovski, direktor Kulturno-informativnog centra u Skopju, koji je organizator izložbe, takođe je ocenio da je reakcija iz Atine neopravdana.

"Ja se ne smatram pozvanim da cenzurišem autora i ono što on smatra da treba da bude izloženo", kazao je Stevkovski.

Izložba treba da bude otvorena 3. aprila, kada će se na samitu NATO u Bukureštu odlučivati o članstvu Makedonije u Alijansi na šta je Grčka najavila veto, ukoliko ne bude nađeno rešenje za 17 godina dugi spor oko ustavnog imena bivše jugoslovenske republike.

"Vlada nema nikakve veze sa ovom manifestacijom i ovim bilbordima i nikada dosada na bilo koji način nije uticala na umetnički izraz pojedinca ili grupe", izjavio je portparol Vlade Ivica Bocevski.

On je dodao da je ministar spoljnih poslova Makedonije Antonio Milošoski razgovarao sa šefom grčke Kancelarije za veze u Skoplju, saopštivši mu poziciju Makedonske vlade u vezi ovog pitanja.

Šef makedonske diplomatije je, prema rečima Bocevskog, tom prilikom "potvrdio makedonsku poziciju i praksu za izgradnju dobrosusedskih i evropskih odnosa, što je Makedonija dokazala u proteklih 17 godina nezavisnosti".

"Ovaj neprihvatljiv poster, koji je pušten u opticaj posredstvom privatne inicijative i istaknut na ulicama Skoplja, direktno vređa nacionalni simbol naše zemlje i našu borbu protiv fašizma i nacizma", izjavio je predstavnik Ministarstva spoljnih poslova Grčke Jorgos Kumucakos.

"Ovaj incident pokazuje da oni koji investiraju u šovinizam i fanatizam prave ogromnu grešku i takođe ponovo potvrđuje ispravnost grčkog stava, konkretno, da je nužan uslov za uspostavljanje odnosa solidarnosti i savezništva poštovati u praksi dobrosusedske odnose između zemalja i naroda", naveo je Kumucakos, a preneli grčki mediji.

Slika sa kukastim krstom na grčkoj zastavi, umesto krsta, bila je jedna od prvih koju su emitovali svi TV dnevnici u Grčkoj.


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PostPosted: 01 Apr 2008 11:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanasaros-7- wrote:
I can not understant why,if all people see the true and know what is going on, why they keep calling this "country" as Macedonia. And this is something which is happening almost with all the countries.


all people knew and see what happend to kosovo and they stay in silent and you expect to say something about a name???(ofcource after the name something else will be on) fuck USA
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